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wally

sitting to pee

I have been negligent in putting the seat down after I finish and this has led to some verbal reprimands - the latest one came today and I replied "well if I had to sit to pee too we wouldn't have to worry" to which my wife replied " well from today on I want you to sit to pee just like I do"
which is a big steo for us and I'm going to do my best to show her that I will do it for her. I like to be feminine and hope this might lead to wearing panties.
I know from reading other sites taht this is fairly common and wonder if people on here practice this mild form of feminization.
Crkrs

All,

Have a woman place a male into a chastity belt, then he will have to sit each time to pee!

Cheers,
craig
GentleDomme

I am not sure I would count sitting to pee as very feminine, but that is just me. My subbie has always just done this out of respect for me. Or maybe to make it easier for him to remember to put the seat down. lol

I do wish the guys at work would do this, they make a terrible mess.

Kat
wally

well I sure feel like a lady when I have my willy tucked between my legs sitting down and peeing, knowing I'm doing it because my wife told me to.
GentleDomme

wally wrote:
well I sure feel like a lady when I have my willy tucked between my legs sitting down and peeing, knowing I'm doing it because my wife told me to.


LOL, Okay, I get your point.

Kat
oldsub

GentleDomme wrote:
I am not sure I would count sitting to pee as very feminine, but that is just me.
Kat


I am not required at all times to sit but do so more in the winter as I am the first to rise and by sitting I take the overnight chill off the seat. It was once used to teach me a lesson, not so much in being feminine but to understand what women must endure. For an entire night out with my friends, I was required to wear pantyhose under my pants.  Going to the bathroom never took so long or was ever more of a chore.
knight4princess

This is one thing I try to do all the time. The only exceptions are when I'm in a public restroom or ... if I'm on my way out the door and I'm in a hurry.

My wife is so impressed that she has bragged about it to her female co-workers, all of whom wanted to know how she managed to get me to do it. (Sort of like training a cat to use the toilet. *Smile*)

This is really no hassle whatsoever. It's more relaxing in many cases than standing. And it leaves the toilet a whole lot less messy. I'd recommend this for all men -- subs or not. Your wife will love you for it, I promise.
little_toto

I almost always stand to pee..., but I do take EXTRA CARE to ALWAYS leave any SHARED restrooms either as clean, or cleaner, than I find them.
I do this out of respect, and in deference, to ALL WOMEN...!!!!
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little_toto

PS. The way things are developing with my new lady, it may only be a matter of time before I'm also sitting to pee, out of necessity.
eg. I may be wearing a chastity device that requires that I sit...!
WOW..., this woman is just AMAZING...!!!!!!!!!!!!
I may just have found my DREAM KEYHOLDER at last...!!!!???
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little_toto

PPS. It's been at least three years that I've seriously desired a woman take control of me in such a way..., and finally, there seems to be the chance that I've found a woman that will. So sitting to pee will be a BLESSING, along with all the others bestowed by womanhood, when we mere males are bothered/inclined to listen...!!!!
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Guest

little_toto wrote:
PPS. It's been at least three years that I've seriously desired a woman take control of me in such a way..., and finally, there seems to be the chance that I've found a woman that will. So sitting to pee will be a BLESSING, along with all the others bestowed by womanhood, when we mere males are bothered/inclined to listen...!!!!
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Toto! Congratulations! Wonderful! I am very happy for you.

I never thought of sitting to pee as feminization. Just respect. I started this on my own at 16 long before I was owned. Preperation for my owner. And yes it is something she loves in me. I highly recomend to those uncollared to train yourself. It really isn't an inconvenience.
Christian
little_toto

Thank you Christian..., I'm very happy too I have to say...!
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FinallyMe

Congratulations toto.  Well done.



Patricia
GentleDomme

You certainly deserve it, dear Toto.  

Kat
Cheggers

I am not allowed to stand.  My wife has been known to listen outside the door to make sure of it, and I'm not to lock the door so she can make spot-checks. She also told 'the guys,' "No one stands in my house."
GentleDomme

Cheggers wrote:
I am not allowed to stand.  My wife has been known to listen outside the door to make sure of it, and I'm not to lock the door so she can make spot-checks. She also told 'the guys,' "No one stands in my house."


Love that! LOL

Kat
Cheggers

Thank you, Ms. Kat.  I think it entertains her as well!

I hope I didn't blush too much when she said it.  
Bradleyj

I was cured of standing to pee by being made to wear a panty girdle and a long lycra camisole when going out in public.  I always have to use a stall.
Billie

Sitting down to pee

I have been yelled at often by my wife about leaving the seat up.  I guess I will start out by sitting down to pee.  
Katie Anne

My male submissive wears skirts most of the time outside working hours as does my female submissive. It is funny, but I think my girlfriend regrets the lose of freedom to wear slacks more than my boyfriend. As my boyfriend is locked into his panty girdle every waking hour he requires both permission and assistance in urination. I found the fact that a woman must handle those parts of him which he can never touch in order to allow him to urinate, has made his submission to all women nearly complete. He is well aware that my girlfriend is as submissive as he his, but she can go to the powder room on her own. He must be escorted. His hands are secured behind him before his skirt is lifted, or at work, his slacks lowered, then his lock is undone and he may sit after panties and pantyhose have been lowered. As he wears a ribbon tied about the base of his penis and scrotum, he is permanently aimed back and down. He is then wiped, powdered, and his panties stockings and girdle pulled into place and only after he is relocked are his bonds removed. He must be cuffed in the shower and in bed to a ring installed to restrain his hands. He is relieved a least once a week, but only on my terms.  The thought of a submissive male believing that he could stand up to pee is as infuriating to me as a male sub believing he still retained masturbatory privileges. Subs who believe they can hide their underwear or pee standing up must believe that are still "real men" at some level and they must be disabused of that fanciful notion quickly.  

Cheers, Katherine Anne
Guest

It never worries me as I don't regard it as part of our FLR, I suppose if it was a kink he desired I may but for me I prefer a full male as a sub.
GentleDomme

Katie Anne wrote:
Subs who believe they can hide their underwear or pee standing up must believe that are still "real men" at some level and they must be disabused of that fanciful notion quickly.  

Cheers, Katherine Anne


Hmmmmm, interesting. I quite enjoy a real man once in a while. And I enjoy feminine ones also. I don't treat all men the same, it depends on the man.

Kat
Guest

I have to agree with you there Kat, just because we have a FLR it does not mean we have to change our lesser half to become feminine. For me it is more the fact that I am in charge and I dictate what we do, if I didn't like my man as a man I would not still be with him after all these years, in fact he knows if he started any cross dressing he would be out on his ear in seconds, the only thing allowed is I sometimes make him wear my panties as a punishment and that is what it is because he hates it and feels degraded so it gets the point over, he can still manage all the household stuff dressed as a man, in fact I love seeing him doing the housework in his leather shorts and man apron or naked and apron and I love the feel of the hair on his arms and legs but all other areas I demand be waxed The factor there is it is what I have decided therefore he complies.
Katie Anne

Sitting To Pee

Kat,

I fully agree with treating men differently. However, we are discussing  submissive males, not men here. I believe a dominant woman will find her own way of handling her submissive. Some will be repulsed by feminization and some male subs either will not be able to handle it or will simply look ridiculous attempting to carry the role off. Many different things will work as suustitutes.

However this section is called Walk Like a Lady. Therefore after some exploration I assumed it was for the discussion of Ladylike deportment for male submissives. A male who asks to submit physically and mentally to a woman and is willing to don ultra-feminine garments that many women no longer own and most seldom wear, does not want to be seen as an adult man, in my humble opinion. I think the term Lady-boy best describes this type of creature. Why confuse him by sometimes expecting him, or allowing him to behave as an adult male? If that is the relationship he wants there are thousands of willing partners waiting for him. My male submissive need only ask and I will provide him with men's underwear, cab fare, and enough money to live on until he gets his next pay check. He is not a slave. No one will pursue him and bring him back. If his need to masturbate ever out does his need to serve he can have his girdle key for the asking. Then he can leave. That is not what he wants, at least at present.

I am a guest here so I will not presume, to speak out of turn. I simply do not understand educating a male to behave like a Lady and then letting stand up to urinate. What kind of Ladylike behavior is that?

Cheers, Katherine Anne
Guest

Katie Anne, I agree, if you have trained you sub a certain way then he should act the way you have trained him, it is your rules and he has chosen to obey them, I would expect just the same. I think I accidentally put what I wanted in the wrong place as this thread is about CD's. So I will re do it elsewhere
GentleDomme

Katie Anne,
No, everything is fine. It's a discussion forum and that is what we are doing, discussing. It sounded like you meant ALL men. And I was just saying, every man is different and should not be treated the same. I misunderstood. I completely agree with you that if he is a submissive feminine man, he should never be allowed to stand to pee. Like you said, not lady like at all. Sounds to me like you train your subs well.

Kat
Doug

While I do sit always at home and most of the time when outside the home, there are times that I don't (but they are rare). My wife expects the seat to always be down at home and and having me sit makes it much more likely to happen. Plus the fact that my wife enjoys my female personna and helps me to have the correct deportment and look when dressed en femme.
DeniseD (aka Doug)
Yoda

I think sitting to pee just makes alot of sense. My wife never liked the seat left up and over the years kept bringing it up. Being a guy and raised like a guy it didn't seem to be a big deal to me. That was the problem, I was only thinking of myself which is common to a lot of guys.

Now that we have adopted the FLR lifestyle the rule is seat down at all times. I am dressed as my wife's maid most of the time at home so it just makes sense to sit. Pulling down my pantyhose and lifting my apron and uniform out of the way is more of a pain that just sitting.

As mentioned earlier one thing for sure if you deveop the habit of sitting you'll never forget to put the seat down.

Yoda
Katie Anne

Denise / Doug,

Please explain why you ever stand to urinate. I just don't get it. Are you submissive and Ladylike most of the time, or all the time? What your Dom or Mistress allows is up to her and I would never interfere.

This question is to help me understand. I just don't comprehend a commitment that is pushed aside for momentary convenience. It seems to me, if you want to commit to the Lady-boi lifestyle, then you should do so. That would mean panties only and I would suggest pantyhose and a girdle, or at least a sport panty as well. I would also suggest an athletic bra and a camisole worn simultaneously in cooler months. Add a bit of heel to your shoes and you will rember who you are all day.

Honey. here is what I don't get. If I understand you correctly. you want what has been seen in the traditionally feminine role in your relationship. Am I right so far?  You are starting at a disadvantage. I assume you did not wear skirts and dresses growing up, except on occasion. I went to private school and wore a skirt every day and to Church on Sundays. through college graduation. When I started work I wore a skirt every day to work. I still wear skirts more often than pants. Often I end up wearing pants when I would rather wear a skirt, as I need to demonstrate that I am the one who wears the pants in my family. Actually I feel more powerful in skirts. If you want to emulate someone like me, you have a great deal of catching up to do. You can't spend the odd evening en femme. You need to be in a skirt and heels nearly every day for at least 4 to 6 hours a day. If there is a way I would suggest you spend at least a month in a dress, hose, and heels. There likely is not a way.

My male sub would be fired if he came to work in a skirt and heels. So I let him wear slacks, but he is still tightly girdled the entire day. Thus he always maintains a Ladylike posture. If I ever saw him sit with his knees apart, I would paddle his spandex encased behind until he learned never to do it again. That is another advantage of a girdle, a spanking hurts all the more. At home, I frequently let him wear an open bottom girdle and stockings. This freedom allows him an unencumbered erection. He quickly came to see skirts and dresses as sexually arousing and pants as eunuch wear. As Yoda wrote sitting to pee in a skirt and hose is simply easier.

Again, I do not expect there to be a day when all men will wear skirts and heels. Likely the men who do add a skirt to their wardrobe will have no more desire to become Ladylike than I have to become masculinized when I wear slacks. With my own male sub, I have noticed that he gets less stares and cat calls when out in public these days. The only way I will let him stuff his bra is if he grows the requisite flesh and he is not ready to do that as yet. Hopefully, more men will be willing to give in to their feminine sides and wear a skirt and heels in public despite being clearly recognizable as men. I would be rather upset though, if this suddenly became the norm.  What would a male sub do?  Would they need to dress like hookers to indicate submission. Hardly Ladylike!

Few young females these days wear skirts more than occasionally. Perhaps they also need lessons in being Ladies. My female sub is learning.  But, we are not talking here about what men or women do. We are taking about Ladylike deportment. That takes a very long time to learn, even for women. Most women today seem to have given up because the effort is too great. However, Denise if you want to be a Lady then expect to spend years re-learning everything from how to walk, to how to sit, and yes, how to pee. So act as if you are in a dress and heels 24/7. Smooth the material over your behind, cross your legs, and dangle your foot when you sit regardless of what you wear. Women do. Then extend your time in dresses and heels.  It most certainly will not always be fun. There will be times when the bra, girdle, high heels will seem like torture. Every woman in her early 50's or older has been there / done that. However this is when you need to put on your sweetest smile and ask what can I do make my Significant Other happy. Women have done it for centuries. Do you have the courage, Denise?

Good Luck, Katie Anne

PS Ruadh gu brath,  indeed!  Slainte va!
Yoda

Hi Katie Anne

Thanks for your post above. You and my wife would get along very well as she has been working with me on the whole feminization front. I agree even after such a short time that spending all day in heels and a dress is a true test. Years ago when I crossdresed at home it was only for short periods of time. As I reflect back I really had no idea what it would be like to work all day in heels and a maid uniform. My wife and mother in law are working hard to get me caught up for all the years they have been wearing heels and dresses. I don't think I will ever catch up however I'll do whatever I need to to satisfy them.

Thanks ever so much
Yoda
Katie Anne

Dear Yoda,

I cannot stress this enough, wearing a dress and heels at home is not enough to catch up. Even if you come home every day and change into your maid's uniform and stay dressed that way until bed, it will not be enough. Remember Dear, changing clothes is easy. Changing ingrained attitudes is very difficult. You mentioned that you wear pantyhose with your uniform. Ask permission to wear hose under your slacks at work. When you have spent 18 hours in pantyhose, unless you are a fetishist you will begin to understand what being a Lady is.

You can also do as my sub does and go out in a skirt. The busier the place the less chance of trouble. How about a shopping mall in the next county? We have found bookstores to be particularly friendly places as are many trendy restaurants. Again this is something for you to work out with your wife and mother-in-law, but I suggest not trying to "pass." Pick a longish skirt mid-calve or so, dark stockings, maybe some boots, wear a unisex top, and do your makeup sparingly. Ladylike is how you act not how your plumbing is connected. Spend the whole day shopping, until your heels are just killing you. Try on some shoes maybe even a new dress. You will need to take it to the men's department. Believe most stores sell so few dresses they will gladly accommodate you.

Have supper and then see a movie. Since you have been good,your Mistresses will likely be glad to treat to some desert or maybe a drink at a hotel bar. Then drive home. If your Mistress desires, you can do the driving. Believe me every cop and tow truck driver has seen a man in a skirt before. When you get home, soak your feet get a good night's sleep. When you wake you will feel as if you had master's level course on Ladylike behavior.  

This was an every Saturday ritual for my sub and I when we first met. In a year he completely forgot that he was sui generis. We still try to get out once a week or so. There are clubs were they welcome our patronage and were both my subs can show more than a little leg. Yoda you can easily surpass most young women in being Ladylike. They will hate you, but you, your wife and mother-in-law will be so proud.

All The Best, Katie Anne
Yoda

Hi Katie Anne

Wow thank you for your reply. Right now I am off on vacation from my corporate job so dressing in full maid attire is all I am allowed to wear. My wife and I just started this a few weeks ago so her plan was to keep me dressed enfemme for the full 2 weeks. At this time I do not know if she has a plan have me go out in public other than a makeup party next week. When she first mentioned it excitement and being scared happend all in the same moments. After reading your suggestion it makes perfect sense to me now.

In all likelihood my wife has a plan to  take me through all the stages of being her sub. It is not for me to think about but just go with the flow. Anything that makes her happy makes me happy. Even if I am not happy about something it really doesn't matter anymore. I wanted to get involved in this lifestyle and have made a committment to follow it through.

So heels, dresses, panties, stockings, garters and bras here I come.

Have a wonderful evening
Yoda
Doug

Hi Katie Ann,
Why do I ever urinate standing up? It has to do with my job situation, I am in construction (a carpenter by trade) and we are often on a job site where there is no porta-john and the nearest tree has to do. I already push the limits at work with unisex outer clothing, acrylic nails with a very pink cast and eyebrows that are waxed every other week. I personally would have no problem with always sitting to urinate, unfortunately my job situation dictates otherwise. My wife and I do what we have to do in order to survive, we need my income so I plan on keeping this job for a while. I truly wish I could do things differently and that society at large was more open and accepting, but reality is often different than fantasy.
DeniseD (aka Doug)
Guest

Katie Anne,
You have to understand what works for you may not work for others, each couple do things the way they feel right and it is unfair to dictate what they sould do, just let them find their own way they are happy with. If they feel happiest just waering the stuff at home then it is perfectly acceptable and enough for them. remember they are subs not slaves and as such have a free will and to me it is wrong to constantly belittle or humiliate any person.
As for panty hose or tights here, I think if you ask most military men or construction workers they often wear them, my husband used to purchase sevweral pairs before going away in the army and also wore them on construction sites, they do this as they are very good at keeping legs warm, so as you see many men do know what it is like to wear them without it being a feminine thing.
However if the sub wishes to be forced to crossdress all the time in both private and public then so be it as it is their choice but I feel we should not do it against their will. I don't do this with my paying slaves so I certailnly wouldnt with a sub husband of 27yrs.
Katie Anne

Dear LadyCaz, Denise, and Yoda

LadyCaz, I just want to make sure you understand that you are quoting me nearly verbatim in an effort to prove I am mistaken. I have said repeatedly that each couple must find their own way. My question to Denise was specifically prefaced with the remark that every Mistress will make her own decisions as to her sub's behavior. The question was for my benefit and not to interfere with Denise and his Mistress's relationship.

Denise, I will probably just never understand. You will likely need to ignore me. It is just that I have used more than a few trees as improvised outhouses and squatted to do my business. For various reasons, like hernias, many men need to squat in order to urinate. If you were wearing a chastity belt you would always need to squat. I have made clear that I think long term chastity belt usage can damage the penis' erectile abilities. So I don't recommend the use of chastities. Denise, do you have female workmates? In my area construction is certainly wide open to women. If there are women on the building site, do they pee standing up? From personal experience I can assure you that it is possible to use a tree as an improvised port-o-john and and urinate in a squatting position. It is even possible to do it wearing a dress, which is after all, why women wore them for centuries. No, I am certainly not suggesting you wear a dress to work Denise. What I am pointing out that when most women lived by the sweat of their brows they wore dresses in fields to facilitate elimination as did most men  If it is a matter of embarrassment that is for you and your Mistress to work out  With pink nails and wax eyebrows it does not seem that you embarrass easily. Again. please feel free, if both you and your Wife are happy, to just ignore me.

Yoda, my remarks about wearing hose under your slacks to work were of course addressed to you. You seem to be working hard at being a full time Lady with the assistance of your Wife and Mother-In-Law. Long term skirt wearing is a very good way to train to act like a Lady on a full time basis. Enjoy your fortnight in a dress and heels. May you have many more long term skirt wearing experiences.

At the risk of being boorish, let me repeat myself. First, subs are not slaves and have human and legal rights. Slavery does not exist in the the U.S. or Western Europe. Well with the exception of very disreputable brothels with kidnapped foreign women as sexual concubines and in fantasy. As to fantasy there are not many people of either sex who can wear a French maid's costume 24/7.  I do know several men who are in skirts and dresses full time, however. Second, my remarks are addressed only to those submissive males who have made a personal, open, free and full time commitment  to "Walk Like A Lady" for an extended portion of their lives. I hope I behave as Lady whether I am in blue jeans and running shoes or an evening gown and pumps. As I have made a commitment to being a Lady and find it uplifting. why would I assume that someone else, regardless of gender would be humiliated by the same commitment?  Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Third, I do not believe all men want to be subs or that all male subs want to be Ladylike. Nor do I believe all, or even a large number of women want to be Doms, or could be if they chose to be. All female Doms are not thrilled with having their subs in a dress and heels. Many male Doms prefer their female subs in jeans. Not everybody likes what I like; I get it!  Fourth, I do not believe that most American women care if they are perceived as Ladylike. Fifth and finally, my remarks are addressed to only to the very small number of couples where the male has. like Yoda and my own male sub chosen 24/7 lifestyle in which the male will strive for Ladylike deportment constantly.

Obviously this is a huge commitment. As Denise points out painted nails and waxed eyebrows are a major life adjustment.  Once such a commitment is made there will be, at  some point,  a through going change in consciousness. The Lady-boi will look at his place in the world differently. Obviously he will soon come to behave differently, e.g. a shorter stride, cross legs when seated. I will be fascinated to hear what Yoda notices after a fortnight in a dress, stockings, and high heels when he returns to work in male business attire.  The affects of Lady training are generally not irreversible. They do show, all the time however, until the trained individual decides to spend months relearning to behave like a non-Ladylike person. My female sub feels it would take her 6 months to re-acclimate to dressing as most young women today do. The willingness to make this commitment to a change in consciousness-- to me-- is the commitment to "Walk Like A Lady" and it can not be put on and taken off like a pair of pantyhose. With all that spelled out in detail can we go back to talking about helping those male subs who want to "Walk Like A Lady."

Thanks for listening,

Cheers, Katie Anne
Silly Jelly

Wearing a femminine napkin and panties 23/7 I ALWAYS sit to pee, whether I'm in a movie, rest area, at a shopping center or at home.  I love to do this because I feel its the least that I can do to keep the area around the toilet clean.  Qu8ite often, men miss.  LOL  At home, where its my responsibility to clean the bathrooms I especially likt to sit, it makes my job so much easier.
dazzed

Her hairbrush on my butt reminds me I'd best not leave it up so I sit now as instructed.
Jimmy

To me that is one of the first lessons you Learn as a CrossDresser
To  do otherwise is to break out of the fem mode
You do it enfemme even if it is inconvienent

Besides it helps you lose those "macho" feelings ,attitudes in a hurry
It can be very simple to teach
simply make standing in fem mode unacceptable
A little lecture followed by two or 3 firm swatts of the paddle to reinforce it
at least that is the way I was taught
plus makes for a cleaner more respectful enviroment

Jimmy
Jimmy

That is also one of the times you sometimes feel sillyest
when dressed
sitting panties down ,skirt bunched with time to think about it all
But I still would not trade being a CD
even if I could

Jimmy    
rockynook

Sitting to Pee. After reading all the posts, I must comment. I just began to sit when I pee. As you are all aware, I am sub slave. I do all the house chores, cooking, laundry etc. I also clean the bathroom. I began to sit recently, because it is practical. By sitting to pee, there is no chance of a "bad aim", and therefore it makes it easier to clean around the toilet. I guess I should of done this when I began my FLR , 25 years ago(LOL).
One other point, when i sit to pee, I feel very feminine. Do others subs have this feeling.
Woody

Usually when I do sit to pee, I feel relieved, lol. Honestly though, Lady does not require me too except at certain times or when she's in a certain mood. Then sometimes she'll step in and watch with a smile on her face. That's embarrassing too especially if she giggles about it.
Jimmy

I think it is also a great reminder of giving up
control of even the most basic of things

And perhaps in a way it makes you feel really
feminine etc

It definitely reinforces her feeling of authority over you

Little things like that and setting with your legs together or crossed standing straight and not slumping and moving in a feminine manner all show you respect  and admiration of the fem

Jimmy    
Jimmy

Also  if you are a crossdresser. it is just one more little way to do something feminine.

Jimmy
Jimmy

And if you are wearing a skirt it is just easier

Jimmy
GentleDomme

Jimmy wrote:
And if you are wearing a skirt it is just easier

Jimmy


Very true.

Kat
Jimmy

Besides if you are already wearing panties .it just seem right

Jimmy
Jimmy

It makes even more of an impression if your SO
giggles ! LOL

 Jimmy
Jimmy

How were (did you) trained to sit

Jimmy
Jimmy

Yes it does bring out those fem feelings.
And is so very important to losing the Male
ego and mindset

Jimmy
knight4princess

Well, I've posted on this topic before.

This is one of those things you can do without your wife even realizing it ... at first. But trust me, she'll notice eventually. And unless she has some weird fetish about cleaning pee off toilets, she'll appreciate each and every time you sit to pee.

(Another thing you can do is to clean the toilet too.)

I only stand at public restrooms (about half the time) and anytime I'm in a total hurry to go -- as in, the last thing before hitting the road, etc.
Jimmy

Sit every time for a period of time
say a month or six weeks
to see what it is really like
sit even when you dont want to
or in bad conditions
Even if out doors squat
Then you understand much better

Jimmy
fishintexn

i do it now

well hello everyone this is my first post on here but got to start some place this week after reading what everyone had to say here i started sitting to pee wow its outstanding here at home well i carried it out to public restrooms as well and ran into some really nasty toilletes i was really apprehensive i thought no way in heck  but i was fixing to just stand then i thought haw many times has my wife gone to a portacan out at bbq cookoffs and various placees where many drunken people as missed and those things were more than nasty then remembering she went in and went pee i know she did not sit but hover so hover i did wow  its much more dificult than i dreamed  but i did it  im a siting to pee person from now on and i have not gotten  in trouble for the seat being up and her almost getting a wet hinney or the seat haveing splaters on it also the potty is  much easer for me to clean  
knight4princess

Well, guys, this is definitely where I"ll take a departure. But at public toilets -- mens rooms -- I'll take the urinal very frequently if all I have to do is pee. A urinal in a public men's room has nothing to do with the home toilet you share with your wife. It's usually quicker and cleaner. So I'll give myself a pass fairly often in a public restroom. Otherwise, I sit.

Also, as I understand it, based on repeated graphic descriptions from my wife, I believe women's public restrooms are way more gross than men's restrooms in general. So even if you're wanting a comparable experience for some reason, you probably won't find it in the men's room, believe it or not. I just hit the urinal and am glad I don't have do deal with the women's restrooms, frankly. It's sad that women do have to deal with them.
Jimmy

How does it male you feel psycologically , emotionally etc to be required to sit

Jimmy
knight4princess

Jimmy, it might make me feel ultra-subbie if I were REQUIRED to sit. But I'm not. I'm highly encouraged to sit. I'm praised for sitting. She even brags to her women co-workers that I sit to pee.

But I do this on my own will. I can skip it anytime. But anytime I do I know I'm likely to make more of a mess at the toilet. So unless I'm in a rush to go out the door or something, or at a public restroom, I'll always sit -- because I want to.

I know most men don't do this. So I guess I mainly feel ... different but happy.
Jimmy

To know y0u have absolutely no choice in the matter.
To realize that to not obey means sure punishment and disapproval

Jimmy
queened boy

Sitting to pee

well theres been a gradual powershift in our relationship . And my gf now requires me to pee sitting down im not very happy about it but have no choice...and im required to leave the door open when im in the toilet
fishintexn

queened boy enjoy it. It really isn't that bad I do it as a matter of choice my queen dose not require it, how ever she is a lot happier for it. Since your girlfriend started you sitting to pee I bet you have not gotten in trouble one time for missing or leaving the seat up, and it defiantly gives one an appreciation for what the lady's have to go through.  They really don't have a choice to sit or stand, carry her demand out in the public  restrooms. I bet it don't  take you long to fully understand. Hint ya better learn how to hover its harder than it sounds
queened boy

Thanks Fish you said it right . I always leave the seat up..though now i cant splash
Shes also into this womens lib stuff and feels its unkind to women for men to pee standing . But the thing is it makes me feel strange as im new to it . and thinking of what my mates will say whenthey come to know of it . But as i said there are lots of changes happening on our relationship and this is just one of them.

QB
fishintexn

who cares what thay say do they live your life?
man up and serve your queen or what ever you call her
queened boy

Thanks Fish it gradually started off as a T&D exercise but now its soon going to be full fledged . Theres another things nowadays our sex is mostly me pleasuring her orally . Thats the only thing shell let me do. Truth is before we started this lifestyle she had begged me to do it and I would refuse to . For some reason I found it dirty but now its all i get to do. Have u had this experience. And how do you pleasure your woman
fishintexn

whats t&d ?
queened boy

Tease and Denial
fishintexn

it would be greatly appreciated if you would go to the introductions section and introduce yourself, there you can tell about your self and all please keep it clean and respectful
rockynook

I have been sitting to pee for awhile.
I do this for two reasons.
1. My Goddess has instructed me, to do so.
   Since I am a sub in a FLR, I do as instructed.
2. It is easier for me, to clean the bathroom.
Silly Jelly

I responded to this post back on Dec. 4, 2010.  At that time I think that it had been 4 to 5 months of me sitting to pee, and its now been 8 months more and I'm proud to say that I continue to sit at ALL times whether home or away.  My wife does not force me to sit, I just do it and I'm really used to it now.  I almost think that I would really feel strange if I stood.
knight4princess

jellybean, great for you. Sitting to pee is one of the most practical, results-oriented and even cloakable things you can do to help out our women friends.

For me, sitting to pee is the most relaxing thing to do also.

But also, I'll stand to pee anytime on the road, in an airport, in a stadium, etc.

Let us know if we can ... do anything for you two!
Subhubby

Sitting to pee is no big deal. I do it all the time. Whether I pee standing or sitting depends how I'm dressed. Fully clothed, it's easier to un-zip and go, otherwise it's more relaxing to sit.
A.S. maid

Although it is much easier to stand and pee, I have been instructed to sit from now on.   My wife has decided, that this is how it should be from now on.  I am getting used to this now and I am sure it will be second nature in the very near future.

It is a lot more common than you think!

A.S. maid
chloe

If you stand up to pee in a public toilet how do you re-tuck yourself, it is much easier to go into a stall and sit to pee and dress properly than standing at the urinal trying to get everything in its right place.

I always sit to pee and have done so for most of my life.
Twinsoul

chloe wrote:
If you stand up to pee in a public toilet how do you re-tuck yourself


Grab each side of your trousers (left & right) at the top/wasistline and do a circling motion so that your shirt fully descends.  For those shirts that just want to be sticklers, some extra tucking around is necessary.  I'm content to just to be shameless.  No type of dude who I would want to be friends with anyway is going to give me wrong looks.

Lifting them up is quite convenient for a fast tuck.  Sometimes I just let them slide down and lift them up again, lol.  

I can see the overhead benefit you're talking about though.
Jimmy

Does sitting make you feel more fem ?
It was part of a total attitude adjustment for me.
  It was a hard habit to form , but failure to comply
meant certain and swift conquences.
 Jimmy
Jimmy

After a while just seems the right way to go.
It was especially embaressing when girlfriend would
Accompany me to the " little girls room" just like
I was really another girl.
Nothing like a supervised " pit stop"
Sometimes I jus wanted  to disappear!
On these occasions I usually came out very red faced.
 Jimmy
gaanchoo

little_toto wrote:
PPS. It's been at least three years that I've seriously desired a woman take control of me in such a way..., and finally, there seems to be the chance that I've found a woman that will. So sitting to pee will be a BLESSING, along with all the others bestowed by womanhood, when we mere males are bothered/inclined to listen...!!!!
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I started this practice of sitting to pee when i started crossdressing, over time, my wife insisted that I should always sit to pee and never stand up, irrespective of my dress. From nearly 3 years, i have never used urinals, and if private stalls r not available or they r very dirty, i will hold it back until i geta cleaner booth , sinve i find it difficult Now to pee sstanding up and it takes a quite a bit of time to coax it to start
maidtiffany

My wife requires that I sit down to pee.  It has made me learn to  appreciate clean restrooms, which I didn't pay much attention to when I used to stand up to pee.  Also, it has certainly made me more empathetic to my wife when she has to use a public restroom!
knight4princess

Public toilets are where I'm free to make my own decisions as far as my wife is concerned. Heck, she'd pee standing up if she could do so easily in a public restroom context. She certainly doesn't begrudge me my ability to limit my public restroom contact to a urinal.

Home is another matter. There's no excuse for my failing to sit to pee at home.
Jimmy 2

Sitting even in public facilities will greatly increase a
mans awareness and empathy

Jimmy
Ms_Valentine

Answering the original post from way back when, I do ask that Paul sits down to pee always, whether at home or out, but my motivation is not because it is in any way, shape or form a kind of feminisation.

The way I see it is that certain habits and behaviours are trained into men simply as the way men do things. However, they are not inherently manly, so standing to pee is not necessary, manly or practical. At home, when men stand and pee, they often seem to spray everywhere or miss more than get it into the toilet, so any man who is submissive to me, will sit down to pee. If he can happily sit to defecate, them he can sit to urinate, that is my policy. No exceptions or excuses.

So, my motivation is for cleanliness and for doing things the way I think is best, not for making men do things in a 'girly' way. I spend a lot of my time, as a woman avoiding doing things in stereotypically feminine ways and wouldn't foist that onto my subs. Men who sub to me know my reasons and so can decide if they like them or not and if they want to be my sub or not.

I do, however, love to be in control and to be obeyed, so I see that what works for me, sitting to pee,  will be good enough for my subs.
Nyxa

I agree, Ms_Valentine.

My dad sits to pee. lol It makes everything cleaner. I hate when my guy friends come over & visit & they use my bathroom & leave splash marks everywhere... Just really chaps my butt... So I'd want my guy to sit & pee, just for the sake of being clean... I really don't care about feminization. That aspect of it does zero for me.
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